This Blog is created to provide an avenue for the parents of youth bowlers and those who have the passion for the game in Selangor Malaysia, to voice their frank and personal opinion, suggestion and experiences on the Youth Development in Tenpin Bowling, currently being handled by the State Bowling Association.
As parents and Bowlers with a real passion for the game, our main intension is to ensure that we provide the best, that we can afford, to our children and our Youth. For many of us our children got themselves involved in Tenpin Bowling, some due to their very own initiatives while some were ushered into the game.
I am very sure that many of us parents are seeing the lackluster manner in which the development of Youth Bowling in the State is being carried out. The current situation is that parents are taking the lead in developing their children bowling career individually, without much help or assistance from the State Association. If it was left to the State Association, with their current style of running the development program, our children will keep falling far behind youth bowlers from other states, particularly from Johor, Perak and Penang, who have a well organized youth development program, whereby the parents are encourage to participate and get involved with the program. Many of the parents in the above states are also part and parcel of the respective State Association officials.
In Selangor, I have never been informed officially, regarding the Association General Assembly. Thus I have never been to the Assembly to voice out my opinion, question the Association Committee or the opportunity to vote capable person into the Committee. I see no transparency in the Association, where a small group of people gets together and vote them, into the State Association Committee. This must stop!
As for the State Association membership, I am very positive that a great majority of the active and paying members are our Youth Bowler and some Bowler’s parent. This is due to the ruling whereby if a Youth Bowler wants to participate in the Sportexcel Junior Bowling Circuit, they MUST be active paying members of a state bowling association. If not for this ruling, I am very positive that the membership count of STBA ’04 will dwindled from day to day.
Thus with the creation of this blog, hopefully all parents of Youth Bowlers in Selangor, could spend a little time, to voice out and contribute to this blog. Maybe we as parent and Bowlers with the passion for the sport can change the attitude and the commitment of the State Association. If there is a need to change the current office bearers by those who have no direct or indirect personal interest in the sport and those who are genuine and with the passion in seeing the development of Youth Bowlers in Selangor, so be it.
Youth Development for the sport Tenpin Bowling needs a huge overhaul. It is needed NOW! ONLY WE, AS PARENT OF YOUTH BOWLERS AND BOWLERS WITH PASSION FOR THE SPORT IN SELANGOR, CAN MAKE THE REQUIRED CHANGE AND ALSO ENSURE THE FUTURE OF THE SPORT IN SELANGOR
Note: Comments can be in Bahasa Malaysia or in English. All your comments, views, suggestions and experiences in this Blog, could become documented evidence that a CHANGE IS REQUIRED, we can then pursue this issue further.
OTHERWISE WE CAN MAKE THIS BLOG A WATCHDOG TO THE STATE ASSOCIATION.
30 comments:
Alhamamdullillah. Now that this Blog is online, I hope that it will receivethe responses that is anticipated. Thereis no malice in this blog but only hope. The hope of one parent,that there will be a big change in the Youth Development Program in Selangor for the sake of our Bowling children.
Calling all parent...you views and opinion is needed here and base on my discussion with some of you in Ipoh.....this blog will achieve its aim.
This is one of a few experiences I have with the State Association, STBA ’04.
I know that there are many better players amongst the youth than my children. I don't blame anybody if my children were not given the chance to represent Selangor, if they are NOT good. Nevertheless, with our support, both moral and financially, thye have proven to many people that they are good player too. Well since they are in STBA'04, many people thought that my children were sponsored by STBA'04. Well, they can take the glory but then the truth is still with us.
I believe many of our children's parent do all they can to provide their children the best to they can afford. But if the government provide a budget for Youth Development, I guess it belongs to our children and I hate to think that "IF, THESE FUNDS WERE MISUSED AND USED FOR OTHER ISSUED OTHER THAN FOR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT”... I think that is NOT very fair to our children and for the growth of our children's chance building up the best in them in bowling.
I know some of the parents are too attached to certain people in the association and tend to believe that ‘person in the association” will NOT do such things to our children. When money is concern let just make ourself think back, it can change anybody to a different person totally.
I don't have any proof but we need a total change in the association to make sure that there are no loop hole in the association to protect our children's right's.
I hope, dear parents. IF, you are caring parent please do something to make sure that other people didn't take our children for granted and do as they like to the future of our children.
Maybe with all the honest concerned parent will change a lot more hearts to make sure all our youth bowler's rights are protected.
Well... here is my comment.
I have been bowling for about 19 years and since then have been bowling under the state of Selangor. Throughout my observation with the old association and the new one (STBA'04), there are a lot of changes and differences between them. Unlike our old president, the late Mr. Danny Perumal, he has been proactive and has made Selangor a state to fear. But ever since he stepped down and leaving us, the association has been ruled by money-minded people. Money in the account has been misused and people with personal issues are the ones ruling the association. Even till now, there are people in the association is using their power and position for their personal interest.
And as for the development program, as all of you know me, I am a very strict coach. I demand perfection and discipline. My style of choosing players is based on performance and also attitude. Nevertheless, I was also once not satisfied with the method of choosing players as when I was coaching the Sukan Teras program in Puchong, my players was never been given a chance to represent the state. What, my players are not good enough is it? To me, unfairness is one of the traits that I am so not into. Why can't us coaches show our students good examples for them to learn and observe? This is one of the issue that I hate to looking forward to. And there seems to be issues saying who is the better coach and what not.... This is all BULL! Coaches are supposed to respect each other and communicate to make the better of the sport, and not be a LALANG, going wherever there's opportunity for personal interests. What are we here for? We are here for everyone, not only ourselves.
Another issue is to all the parents that are sending their children to the program. Please be advise that you can't buy us, especially me. My principal of teaching is simple. Your children listen, the more attention I'm giving. If your children doesn't listen, there's nothing more that I can do. And please, please trust and respect the coach. Why can't coaches get the respect that they are supposed to earn when they are really honest? If you are not satisfied with a coach, please do not see other coaches the same way and go back-stabbing. This is not right. Please think, if you are going to do all this, who will suffer if not your children?
I may not be a Selangor coach anymore but I am still a Selangorian. In my heart, there's always Selangor but please do not see me or treat me like other people in the association. My job as a coach is to teach and educate everyone, not choosing who they are and what are their status. This is my passion and to be successful, I must stick to my principal.
I would like to apologize if my comments above hurts anyone's feelings but this is what I feel. Please look back and think whether what we have done previously was right or wrong. If it was right, then continue to do it. If it was wrong, I think now is the best time to change and start making things right. It is never too late to make changes.
Mus,
Thank you for a very brave and honest comment on your very own personal experience. I guess if we are right, we should not be scared because TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL.
I hope that with the comment made by you, would encourage more parents and personal to log into this blog and do a tell all.
Like the Malay saying....CAKAP BELAKANG2 TIDAK ADA GUNA!
TQ Mus!
Mus,
What made me very suprised was that, other states still sponsoring few youth in several tournament. I was shock. I don't think it was a lie since it was very fluent came out from a mother who I think it's not so bothered about money.
I think memang betul lah, duit boleh membutakan mata sesiapa pun...
My two girls paid Sukma training to Kenny about RM200 each. Whereas other states give the children allowances for their time and transport to come for training. Well, what is passed is passed. I know there are many personal agenda in STBA'04 tapi bila dah ada orang bagi duit just to put their child in the team, I think I start to hate somebody who shows their true colors after I gave the trust....
I think we should ask 'Badan Pencegah Rasuah' to check on the account... Biarlah transparent sikit... Asyik tak ada duit aje.. Where are all the budget went to????
I know your coaching. I trusted you but I just take away my children away from them.. who ever they are. I guess you know the situation.
One thing I hate to make a statment here was, "The ISN of Selangor, make a statement that "almost all the selangor player are injured at wrist and wish to see the coach" I don't know what does this statement means but as a mother, I think the wrong technic was thought to our children....
well ... let all the parent think what they want to think... To me, if you are scared your children are bad and the coaches tell your children off and tak nak anak pandai, to me you don't lose. They should know what they need. The truth will always comes later. Always hope it will not be too late.
Many many moons ago, the bowlers under the Selangor Development Program (MNS/Teras etc...etc)conducts a roll-off, before almost all Junior Circuit Tournament, to select a few bowlers from the Youth Graded and Open Bowlers, to be sponsored to these tournament.
On some occasions, my daughters had been sponsored. I have to put this on record, for the readers.
What had happened for the last on year? I am sure that during those days, there are allocations from MSN/Ministry etc...etc. Dun tell me that funds had been stopped by the Ministry. I do not sincerly believe that allocation of funds for the development of Youth Bowling in Selangor has been stopped by the Ministry. Now this is a BIG monetary mistery,right?
Dear Guys,
Nice to have this blog. At least I'm aware something is going on but I don't see it clearly. I would prefer to be quiet rather than give comments. I believe it's to early to give comments. Yes, I have exposed my daughter to play bowling for 3 years and coached by somebody. She is doing well and does not facing any problems. That's the way I see it at this moment and that's why I prefer to be quiet.
I just aware about your concern thru this blog. Thank a lot, but if the matter become obvious then may be I would join you all.
TQ.
Comment from: Shalin [Not Member] [124.82.89.69 ] · 2009-03-11 @ 12:32:46 am · · Email: shalinzulkifli@gmail.com
In response to: Welcome
Assalammuaikum to everyone,
i am writing in response to some of the comments made.I would like to clarify certain matters.I have been bowling since i was 9 and have been a STBA member ever since then. Yes, true STBA in our heyday (90's to early 2000) was a force to be reckoned with & we still ARE contrary to what people might think. This is proven by the number of national bowlers that are Selangorians currently in the National Team (NY,Backup & Elite).
I have also been fortunate enough to be a Committee member recently 2007-2009.I was like some of u here also,doubting the transparency of the association but that was before the formation of STBA 04.
Before i go on giving u some facts that i for sure know, through being in the committee, I would like to state that the only reason i joined the committee was to help the association to be where it was before & i have no hidden agenda because i do not need anything from STBA whether it be money wise or anything else.
Therefore i have nothing to gain personally or professionally from being a member.I instead believe that i am able to give valuable input to the association through my experiences as a national team member & a qualified coach (USBC Silver & Sports Science Grad from UM), my pure intention was & still is to help the kids & association to be where it was before (during the late Peter Yap's era). Ok here goes...
1.STBA was in really really bad shape when Dato Aini took over as the President & we have been working really hard to mend & repair the mess that it was before.So most of the committee's work so far has been to rebuild almost everything from scratch..Which is not easy task with all the red tape that we have to go through.Since most of us are really new, it has been a learning process..I have to agree that we are not perfect & we might have flaws but we are trying our best to help make the association & the bowlers better. We are for the bowlers because we are bowlers....
2.STBA 04 was started because the Old STBA was mismanaged (Through the old treasurer that took most of the funds that were for the kids/association) & was in DEBT...Therefore when STBA 04 started, we had to settle a lot & i mean A LOT debts that was from the previous management...So we actually started in the RED even before anything...That i'm sure most of u wasn't aware of..We have since been able to pay & settle most of the old debts & we are finally in our way to the right direction. Thanks mostly to our president Dato Aini
3.STBA does not have any money & nobody is making any money or taking any of the funds from NSC/MSNS( there are no $$$ given for additional training besides the development program, transport,etc)..( The person who has done those things are NO longer with the new committee, I Assure u of this)..ALL of the funds if any that was given are given to the bowlers 100%...
In Fact,FYI Dato Aini (Our president), Dato Ariffin & Dato Seri Laffti has actually given & taken out their own $$$$ ( A lot i should say) to pay & sponsor some of the expenses for the tournaments (Selangor Classic namely & some of the circuits).Dato Aini has been solely responsible to attain the CCM sponsorship that has enabled us to host the Selangor Classic that has been revived since it was last held in the early 2000's..that many of the members are not aware of..Some of the profits from the tournament are used back to pay the remaining debts.
4. We do not receive any form of sponsorship that i know of to sponsor kids to the Sports Excel Circuits...Maybe other states have funding but we did not receive any from the MSNS, if we did the kids would be sponsored...I don't know but maybe some of the other states have found their own sponsors to fund their bowlers.
5. Selangor unfortunately doesn't have enough qualified coaches (Sports Science) & we are in the midst of compiling a list of coaches that might be interested to coach & undergo the sports science courses provided by NSC...The few coaches we have are also not given appropriate reimbursements by the NSC to support or cover their traveling expenses ( they are reimbursed RM300 a month,divide that by 12 times a month which means they get RM25 a session which they only get paid 3-12 months later.).So most of the coaches that are & have been coaching the Development program have been doing it for their love of the sport & Selangor.If not for their dedication we would not even have the talent & pool of kids that we have now .Thank u coaches, u know who u are..
6. The Selection of players are the perogative of the head coach.Even if i were the coach for an example, there would be some decisions that i would make that probably some parents might not agree with but it's very subjective.In my case i would expect the parents to respect my decision but i would also explain to them the reason for my decision so that they can understand the reasoning behind it. As for the AA & AAA selection also, the MTBC coaches are the ones who determines which kids are selected to be in the program.STBA & it's coaches do not have any say on who gets selected.
As i said STBA 04 is still a baby, but we are working hard to bring up the association.It is a long process because there are so many aspects that we need to work on but i hope that we will get the support from everyone,from parents, kids to coaches and remain patient & optimistic.I welcome this form of discussion & i hope that i have been able to shed some light on certain matters that some of u might not have been aware of.
Lets all work together in harmony & unity so that Selangor will be the state to be fearful of again.
wassalam & warm regards to everyone...:)
TQ Shalin. Yr comments should be shedding a lot of lights on the going ons within the State Association
I like to think that STBA is making the right move in roping bowlers in the committee and also getting the ex-international as coaches.
As a member of Selangor Soccer Fan Club since the 80s I had a lot of respect to Dato' Aini as a leader and abilities to look for sponsors too, however I believe a good administrator who assist the president to plot and plan the future will be useful.
If you look at the participation at the junior circuit now, you can see which state associations are well organized and which are not.
Dear all, I am one of the parents of our young bowlers in sukan teras programme (actually till today no news of the programme). I would not comment on the affairs of the association due to lack of factual informations, therefore,I will stick to only sharing my observations based on the past two circuits, namely Penang and Perak legs.
Majority of our bowlers (including the 'chosen' ones) struggled greatly during the tournaments. What baffled me was the absence of coaches/leaders during the events. Other state's coaches were always there whenever their bowlers were in need but to my 'amusement', none from our very own 'association'. Are they too busy 'bickering' like the state affairs of Perak/ (sorry perakian, but that's a FACT) or are they they too busy 'developing' their youth? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the circuits THE place to unearth/ guide/ correct/ train future talents? Where were they? Looks like the association is not even aware that there are ongoing tournaments base on the lack of interest shown till today. It gives one the impression that the association has already chosen 'their future people' and therefore, need not be present during the tournaments (wasting time and money?)
It saddens me to see the struggling child being 'coached' by body language experts( tension mums and dads, me included)instead of REAL coaches during the game. Can one blame the parents for wanting the best out of their children more so when there were NO coaches around for them to share their grievances( the children)? Are we THAT busy?
Gentlemen, and ladies in the association. You are given the responsibilities(amanah) to care for our youths and the wellbeing of the associations, PLEASE do just that. Have the parents involve actively, remember, they( the parents) have sacrificed a lot in time and especially money, SO DON'T ignore them. Please discard self interest for the sake of our future bowlers. Please don't give us parents reasons to doubt ALL of you, therefore, be transparent, and listen to the grouses. If you do your part, then, we'll do ours. BUT if you choose to ignore us again...and again, then you will see that some of us might start growling after all. Thank you , for now.
Hungry for success...and blood >:^)
I have read all comments made on this blog so far and I get more confused. Anyway I just want to add on my two cents worth based on what had been typed in the comments, so far.
1 On the awareness of the association regarding the schedule of the Junior Circuit:
This would be the joke of the Century if they are not aware about the schedule.
2 The Absence of Coaches/Leaders during the Last two Junior Circuit:
The Youth Development Training in Selangor has not even began for the Year 2009.
3 On the funds from NSC/MSNS( there are no $$$ given for additional training besides the development program, transport,etc):
If funds are provided from NSC/MSNS for development program why the selected Youth Bowlers be made to pay RM30.00 per month, to participate in the program? Yes some may say the monetary value is too small to be an issue, but then again the development program is being funded.
These bowlers must also fork out RM25.00 for one T-Shirt.
4 Regarding other state that could have founded sponsors to fund their Youth Bowlers:
How come STBA’04 could not do the same and solicited sponsor for such purposes. (Selangor being one of the richest state in Malaysia, with many huge corporation having foothold in the State.
These bowlers even had to fork out RM25.00 for one Development Training T-Shirt.
By the way, any of you parents knows what is going on with the Selangor Youth, selected by MSN, development training?
Has the training started?
I have heard that Kuala Lumpur has commenced with their training program.
I am also hearing that Selangor want to make another roll-off, to select the youth. Is this information that I heard true? If so, are certain people trying to say that the selectors from MSN is NOT QUALIFIED to make the selections?
Or is another personal agenda of certain people?
Salam Semua..
Daripada comments yang diberikan, nampaknya memang ramai pihak yg begitu perihatin. So lets all join hands, heads and mind to get this sorted out and moving to the right direction, where all parties concerns are taken care fairly without biased. Everyone have to always remember that they are serving the people and it is an AMANAH. InsyaALLAH Allah akan membuka jalan kebenaran untuk kita terajui bersama.
Kepada Anonymous,
Alhamdullillah dan terima kasih atas komen anda.
Walaubagaimana pun Blog ini memerlukan your personal experiences, suggestions, advice etc.
Ini akan memberi kita , sebagai parents to the Youth Bowlers and those who has the passion for the sport in Selangor, with more added information. This will also create and widens our awareness.
Thank you again.
Hello selangorian bowlers and parent.At last i have a free time to join in. I think we should wake up Stba 04 first.Do stba 04 made a meeting with all the members or family.so far none ok.I know some of them in stba04 had done a good job but some of them are not. some of them had a personal agenda to gain at stba 04. Thats why they are there. so let kick these guys out. Its not good for the kids,bowlers,state and country. Goverment pun dah tukar orang k.Which not good out they go.Young generation are coming in.Why wait long we have to train and gets young kids to serve the the state or country. Cakap mahu cari champion.If not country pun at list these young bowler can enjoy thier game.So what are the head coach of selangor are doing.Don't he have passion of the kids and bowling.Hey how many bowling centre in selangor? So can't they sit down with these centre and discuss.What ever fees came up tell the parent.I am sure they will agree. Don't charge like the personal coaches are charges la.be reasonable.See what happen to all the student of sukan teras or wat ever project they have. Nearly 3/4 of them are left out.Where they want to turn to if not the stba04 to help them. Not only These kids but as you can see the coaches too. Where are these coaches gone too?Why stba04 don't have a full time coaches?ok la part time pun ok jugak.The parent pay what. Ok ok again there is no moneys to pay. I think so.So why don't stba04 make money.A lots of way to make stba 04 moneys. I think alot of stba 04 members are willing to help.Get acoaches that willing to coach student with passion. Not the one that want names,glory and personal agenda. Oops sorry i got to go. I will be Back. Not Finish Yet
Now the real stuff is starting to be revealed.
I think it is best not to on Anonymous status. Please register so that all these good, constructive comments and suggestions cn be documented evidence.
BTW any of you out there knows Dato Aini's email address? I would like to inform him of the existance of this Blog so that he can be kept informed of whatever is really going on in STBA04.
Things that is RIGHT will remain RIGHT but what is WRONG should be highlighted.
WIth documented evidence, (meaning the person who wrote in the Blog is traceable, should there be a need for all of us to come forward, to make the required change in STBA04.
Thank You for your understanding.
To Parents of Youth Bowlers and those who have the passion for the game, PLEASE REGISTER to this Blog, to ensure that TOGETHER as a GROUP, we can URGE for the CHANGE!
to admin:
i think is best to open up a forum to post a comment is better than posting here, it will be a mess. there is forum for free.
ok here is my comment
kenny is a good coach, yes he do charge $$ if want to go under him,and i know parents was thinking why do we have to pay the $$ where we are training under the state, im also clueless, but he is a fully committed coach, you dont see im sitting down behind chit-chatting doing nothing,
im under him for few years, and now i got what i dream of, to be in the national team.
i started bowling late, i go under him in year 2003 till 2007
and now got my chance in the national,
what i want to say is, if you have a coach that is fully committed, you will go up faster,
during my training days under him, other student and me will listen to him carefully,and we are serious during training, and when we done something wrong he would scold us i mean he really scold us, that we are brainless, but we accept it, we treat him like our parents, when a child done something wrong,the parents will scold the child, its the same concept.
but what i can see the student now days under him, cant accept the way of coaching i used to have, i know he feel that also.
the way he coach compare to my days, he is more, way more softer than my time under him,
now days the kids like to be pampered and playful. when he tried to scold the kids, the kids would talk back with no respect, and some of the parents would complain also. but compare to koreans this is just nothing.
i can give some hints, dont think that coming to national is free of scolding, i also think that also but im wrong, i can say is its worse than kenny, but i accept it because i want to improve faster.
as for the association i cant give any comment because i got no idea what is happening after i join the national squad
if want to improve, dont hate the coach, because if you start to hate them you wont improve because you create a barrier between you and the coach, and when you cant improve you will start to blame the coach and association etc. etc. and this will kill your career.
not every one is born as a genius or lucky, we have to work hard to get something,
i can say if you come to national level,it is just survival, we have to learn to things our self, the coach cant spoon feed us every time, they only can guide us and that is not enough to advance to next level,
no result then we are out of the squad,
so think properly b4 deciding to bomb the coach, i know some parents is frustrated because they have to pay for the coaching fee, and when they are not selected, the parents sure get frustrated and mad,
but b4 we scold the coach, try to think back why your children cant get selected,
is it your child not good enough ??
or
is it the parents involve too much
in the way of coaching??
if your kids is not good enough, train more,when training dont just go there and throw the ball and knock all the pins down, instead, try to experiments something,like how to tackle different lane condition, practice all the lines, from arrow 1 till the max you can go.
this what we call learning.
for parents that are too involve in the coaching, pls if you want to coach then teach the kids yourself and dont join the association, if you want to pay the coach, then let the coach do the job, if you want to help the kids, talk to the coach what he teach, and remind your kids when they are training alone
i think the coach or the association already told the parents that even if your kids is in the selangor elite squad, it dont mean that your kids is confirm a place in the sukma squad
so what we pay the coach is to learn his skill not to buy a place in the sukma squad.
i hope what i comment here, other parents dont feel objected, because its just my point of view
congratulation kelvio u are in national squad.Good to hear that u gain from a good coach like kenny.I think who ever in the national team or when they become champion would say that they had a good coach. If not they won't be there. Biasa la org kan. Ok we are here not to blame coaches.As i agree with u the children must listen and work hard then can succeed.Not to forget the part of the parents.Kalau tak bagus tak bagus jugak la jgn salahkan orang lain kan.But as u can see if u are head of the coaches in the state or mana mana it is just not coaching only.You must know how to set pograme for the youth or kids.Give idea or propose project to stba04. Gets the coaches especialy new coaches moving. Without going practical how do they polish thier skill.So to gets thier knowledge and skill give them the kids or student. Eh come on la people geting older u know young genaration will step in.Kalau tak curah kan pengalaman pada orang lain tak de gunanya ada penuh ilmu di dada tu.Another thing i m not blaming coaches. But hidup dunia kan ada coaches pilih kasih with the student ada yang siap nak jatuhkan student tu. I just don't understand why this coaches so hypocrit. Don't tell me u tak pernah nampak atau dengar this thig happen.So please la choose the right coach for the kids or bowlers. By the way kelvio you are very lucky that u had parents that willing to spent and support u on your bowling carrier.Fine u tell that parent that coach thier kids don't join the association. Are u living in this world.U are not opening up eyes ears and head.Hey kelvio not many people have money. look at the one that cannot aford.But because of the children they try to give thier best.so they learnt and they coach thier kids.By the way not all a good coach can make a good player or a champion.Some coaches cant even teach and train student still they can get certificate.Some people dont have anything but still they can a player to be better player. God is great it can turn a lots of beautiful things.So when they are good the association ask them to join in.So you tell me should the parent stop coaching thier kids?What happen if they are drop?Who going to teach and bring them up? Did u ever ask the asociation why they alway want a champion or to become champion in every tounament?If u were married than u will understand about life and what u will do for your kids.And i in here is not for my kids only but for others kids and youth bowlers.Passion coach will not let the student down and passion bowlers will always have passion with bowlings.at the moment i stop now. i will be back.Wish u all the best kalvio
Kelvin,
TQ for your comments, we appreciate it vey much.
Please people do not get this blog wrong, we want all kind of comments and experiences and suggestions.
Lets not go refuting each other's comments. That will geth us nowhere and it is not the intension of the blog.
Please allow all kind of comments to be written in the blog no matter if it is in line with our own personal thoughts or not.Only then can we get to the truth.
Dear all,
After reading all the comments in this blog, I think some of you are getting the wrong idea the direction of this blog. This blog is to get ideas on how to solve problems that is arising in our state now. But it seems that more comments on who's right or wrong here. HEY! WAKE UP! We are Malaysians and we must always practice what we preach, be reasonable.
Why are you guys keep on blaming the coaches? Why are you guys keep on blaming other people? I was there in Selangor for 3 years and what do I get? Do I get support from the parents? Marah anak sikit dah lari, pergi kat coach lain. Apa ingat bagus sangat ke? I am really pissed off with some of the comments here. Do you think we coaches are being paid thousand of ringgit for coaching? We are paid only RM350 a month and we can only see the money 1 year later. And the measly RM30 that parent's pay us can make us rich? NO WAY! We are doing charity work ok... Everyday after work to be at Summit USJ for training... going through traffic jams and avoiding meetings. THIS IS WHAT WE SACRIFICE FOR THE KIDS!
Please seat back and think what you all have done to appreciate the people who are doing all the hard work. You only know to look at others' mistakes but not at your own. Please think of a way to solve the problem now. Get together and talk to the association instead. I think that is the best way now.
Mus Thank You again for highlighting the REAL INTENSION of this Blog.
As had been mentioned this is to find ways to improve the program and/or Association.
We need constructive comments & suggestions, otherwise this Blog is not servingthe porpose it is meant for.
I am going to only allow registered member and Open ID to place comments in this Blog from now on.
This is to ensure that there is a name and a linkback to the writer.
I hope that you will all agree with me.
hmm ok here is the catch,
botak ur right that im lucky that my parents support me,
in this sport(bowling) its not a cheap sport to play,
im really sorry to those that is interested to play but because of the high cost,it make it impossible.
im not saying that im rich, that im not,i just come from a middle class family, even if im in the national, sometimes i have to spend a lot money to go overseas tournament, this is because if i dont qualify within the MQ are given, so i have to win money just to support my expense to overseas, i didnt even ask from my parents now.
i know i will sound objected but this is reality.
nows days its "no money its no talk "
yes i admit that there is pilih kasih coach, this i cant comment on it,
but if a coach give special attention to a kid meaning he want the kid to improve better and faster, this is because the coach sees something special in the kid, and want to push the kid up,
and sometimes the coach is too focus in the kid, he forgot about others,
but we must remember one thing, the government dont just give money just to develop and promote the sport they also want result,
a single champion also its enough,
as for the parents to coach the kids, i dont mean the parent cant coach the kids, my father always coach me, but he will ask the coach what the coach teach and remind me when im out.
but some parents want their own style and not the coach, so this will clash and the only person that suffer is the kids, because they are lost,this will make it harder for the kid to regain back and will spend more money and time,
so what i mean is either let the coach do all the thing or
discuss and work together with the coach
my comment here is not to defend or object any one but its the reality, lets work together to solve problem instead of creating more,
hello Disini saya dapat melihat tidak ramai parents, youth bowler dan bowlers masuk ruangan ini.Walaupun ramai yang mengeluh dan bercakap2 di luar sana.Adakah mereka ini tidak tahu ruangan ini atau saja menjadi perhatian saja. Tapi mereka ingin perubahan. Mcam ni saja lah. Apa kata kita adakan meeting atau sidang dialog antara parents,youth bowlers dgn stba04.Baru kita Boleh lihat dan dpt banyak pendapat.Mana yang malu dan takut nak bersuara boleh tulis dlm borang. Saya tengok shalin begitu perihatin dan mengambil berat. Terima kasih Shalin.
Terima Kasih Botak. Tapi, kalau bolih diminta typekan nama sebenar, supaya kitaBotak sebenarnya.
Apa yang saya lihat Botak perihatin terhadap situasi Youth Bowlers kita di Selangor,bergini lah:-
1 Registerkan diri and jadi Follower.
2. Tolong sebarkn address Blog ini pada parents yg you kenal.
Apa yg dapat kita lihat hanya segelintir Parents yg menyumbang pada Blog ini.
Tak guna adakan meeting atau sidang dialog antara parents,youth bowlers dgn stba04, atas ketidak puas hati satu dua parents sahaja. Nanti buat malu sahaja.
Blog ini perlu lebih banyak parents yg menyumbang supaya kita dapat isi hati mereka, dan kita tahu siapa mereke semua, bukan dgn nickname sahaja. Itu aan jadi seperti surat layang yg tidak ada makna, kalau nk bawa isu ketengah.
So di harapkan Botak bolih register diri to this Blog dan tolong sebarkan Blog ini pada parent2 Youth Bowlers di Selangor yg mana you kenal dan dapat berhubung.
TQ atas sokongan Botak!
New Comments added
...Yes, true STBA in our heyday (90's to early 2000) was a force to be reckoned with & we still ARE contrary to what people might think. This is proven by the number of national bowlers that are Selangorians currently in the National Team (NY,Backup & Elite).
That's now .
At the current rate , it might not stay that way .
Too many bowlers, talented bowlers stop training seriously or even stop playing by the time they're 14-16 . I can pop up at least 10 names of my head right now . This is mostly due to what has been happening in Selangor the past 3 years .
On of the strength of a state, in any sport is in my opinion is having a large pool of talented players from various age levels . So it would be easy to grind out good players consistently like a production line . There will always be someone to fill in Shalin's, Kelvin's or Aqeem's shoes when they step down . And HOW ON EARTH is Selangor to be able to do that when they cut the u12 allocation to a mere handful of players like in 2008 ? Basic logic . Your pool should be shaped like a pyramid, with the u12 at the bottom of the pyramid the majority . This is to ensure that despite naturally having players drop out from the programme as they age, you will still have that large pool to choose from . But now . 20 players in the sukma squad . How many in u12 ? I bet you it's not enough . When thoes 20 in the sukma squad dah takda, sapa nak ganti ? And how are you gonna do that if you have such a small and limited pool of players ?
I think what every parent wants here for their children is equal opportunity .
I cannot agree more with what had been stated by Khai. Yes there are many Selangorians in the NationalYouth/Back-up Squad etc….. However, the downfall had started and will continue unless something very drastic happens. How ….what…and when, is something that all of us who loves the sport, should be thinking right now.
What and where are the shortcomings of STBA04? If there are any, what needs to be done and how must it be done.
I attended the Petaling Perdana preparations for the Majlis Sukan Sekolah2 Selangor tournament during the past week, and what I had observed at the very grass-root level (under-12 age group) is very appalling. There were only a handful of boys and girls participating in this group, where almost half of these participants do not even have much basics in them.
This was not the scenario two years back. Thus we can all agree with Khai that what started three years ago is now a reality and if STBA04 do not relook seriously into their development program, we can all forget about Selangor being a Bowling strong house in Malaysia by next year.
Yes I agree again with Khai that many GOOD Youth Bowlers in Selangor had given up bowling seriously due to the many unhealthy practice and principles undertaken by STBA04. However, what can we do about it?
You select 20 odd youth into the SUKMA training squad. You charge them couple of hundred ringgit each and at the end of the period, you pick only the ones that you had in mind right from the beginning, into the Squad. Just pick the ones you had already earmarked and train them. As for charging these bowlers, I really do not understand the irony. SUKMA is a national sporting agenda and fund are allocated for it’s preparations, either by the National sport bodies or the State sport bodies. Why are these athlete still being charged for training. Logically thinking these athlete should be getting allowance instead of having to pay for their training. LU PIKIR LAH SENDIRI.
STBA04 takder duit? Mana bolih! Selangor is one of the richest state in Malaysia, if not the richest. What are the administrators of STBA04 doing? Are they just sitting there waiting for the President to go out himself looking for sponsors? ITU BUKAN CARA NYA!!
The administrators should be doing their homework, make their proposal, go visit and talk to potential sponsors, and when things looks bright then go GET the President’s involvement. Ini cara nya untuk mencari dana Persatuan.
Itu satu cara and cadangan dari saya. I am sure that many more parents are much more knowledgeable than me on how funds can be obtained. Fikir2kan lah……ini semua untuk anak2 kita. Apetahlagi untuk anak2 kita yang kurang mampu tapi berbakat besar dalam sukan Tenpin Bowling.
Yes many of the parents of Youth Bowlers in Selangor are very well-to-do. They can engage personal coaches for their children, buy great bowling balls for them too. Good for all of you and be thankful for what had been given. However, think a little bit about the children with big potential but whose parent are not as well off. Should we just shrug our shoulders and say….”well too bad!” ? I for one do not agree with this, if we say that Malaysia is a caring nation.
Lets sit back a bit….do some thinking and at the end of the day come out with some great comments on how ideally things should be done and administered.
Just food for thoughts!
it's good to have this such of blogs.. at least now bowlers out there knows the truth about the Selangor Tenpin Bowling Association..
i am one of the selangor bowlers for quite sometimes.. there are so much about the association that people needs to know..
i hope this blog will bring out the truth out of them..
that is all from me for now..
i'll come back in if i'm really needed to spill out the truth..
Salam.
What say you Khai? Let us havethe names and maybe we call get in touch with them and ask them their reason for quiting. We may be able to get the reason, we then try to find the antidote!
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